Comments on: Secession Week Blogging: Tuesday – American Secession & Independence Movements http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/ Towards a Cambrian Explosion in Government Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:14:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Independence Day Round Up « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-2250 Independence Day Round Up « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:50:13 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-2250 [...] Tuesday – American Secession & Independence Movements [...] [...] Tuesday – American Secession & Independence Movements [...]

]]> By: PalmettoPatriot http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-2143 PalmettoPatriot Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:49:54 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-2143 Good stuff and I wish the best of luck to each of these movements. However, don't leave us out here in South Carolina. The Third Palmetto Republic is seeking the peaceful independence of SC from the United States. http://palmettorepublic.org/ We have an independence rally in Mount Pleasant coming up on the 3rd of July! Good stuff and I wish the best of luck to each of these movements.

However, don’t leave us out here in South Carolina. The Third Palmetto Republic is seeking the peaceful independence of SC from the United States. http://palmettorepublic.org/ We have an independence rally in Mount Pleasant coming up on the 3rd of July!

]]> By: Secession Week 2010: Culture and Secession « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-2129 Secession Week 2010: Culture and Secession « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:01:51 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-2129 [...] Since much of secession culture in the US centers around individual states, you may also be interested in last year’s Secession Week topic of American Secession & Independence Movements. [...] [...] Since much of secession culture in the US centers around individual states, you may also be interested in last year’s Secession Week topic of American Secession & Independence Movements. [...]

]]> By: Secession Week 2010: Independence is Better Than Revolution « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-2048 Secession Week 2010: Independence is Better Than Revolution « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:34:39 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-2048 [...] Last year’s event produced some very interesting material here and elsewhere on the topics of American secession movements, secession versus revolution, federalism (secession lite), non-territorial secession, and the [...] [...] Last year’s event produced some very interesting material here and elsewhere on the topics of American secession movements, secession versus revolution, federalism (secession lite), non-territorial secession, and the [...]

]]> By: Upcoming: Secession Week Blogging 2010! « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-2037 Upcoming: Secession Week Blogging 2010! « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:19:40 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-2037 [...] Current American Secession Movements [...] [...] Current American Secession Movements [...]

]]> By: American Secession & Independence Movements, by Patrissimo « DumpDC http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-467 American Secession & Independence Movements, by Patrissimo « DumpDC Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:43:44 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-467 [...] To read the rest of the blog, Click Here. [...] [...] To read the rest of the blog, Click Here. [...]

]]> By: Elaine Cullen http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-423 Elaine Cullen Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:24:26 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-423 There is a tremendous degree of secessionist activity in the world right now. It appears that these secessions and secessionist movements are part of overall current actions worldwide that are intended to destroy nations. The secessionist activity today, has much in common with historical antecedents that started in World War One. The actions that formed much of the Trans-Caucasus - Central Asia states as semi autonomous states initially occurred in the wake of World War One, with Germany as the aggressor, which served to destroy the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Ottoman Empire and the Russian Empire. This created a number of smaller states, using the newly created League of Nations to assist. The Russian Revolution was, it appears set up by Germany and Japan working together. Germany funded and backed Lenin and Trotsky and the Bolsheviks as well as the opposing Nationalist "whites", and Japan also funded and fought with the "whites" against the bolsheviks, ripping apart the Soviet Union, and creating a number of separate semi autonomous states and leaving a void in the Soviet East, which Japan rushed in to fill. During World War One, there were deliberately set civil wars within both the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. In Turkey, one of the groups set in conflict with the Turkish government were the Armenians, it appears backed by Germany. In the Austro - Hungarian Empire, they appeared to back the Serbs in conflict with the Austro Hungarian Empire. In terms of the Soviet Union, both nations used the "Reds" and "Whites" in conflict with each other to achieve the same goal. This same "pattern" or method of use to attack other nations was seen leading up to World War Two, where Japan fostered secession movements all through China and in Mongolia (Manchuria). In Europe, civil wars were set up backed by the German government, the Spanish Civil War being one of them, that all served a similar goal. It appears that the present actions are also being set up by the German and Japanese governments working together, who are the main economic investors and those who are, as nations, moving it to gain more economic, political and military power in these regions, often using international organizations, such as the UN, EU and NATO as proxies for their actions. Germany was directly involved in recognizing the seceded states of Slovenia and Croatia, when the Slovenians and Croatians hadn't themselves, and moved in militarily after doing so. The destruction of Yugoslavia is only country where this has occurred, and is fact occurring throughout the world. It is significant that these secessions for the most part did not begin until the late 1980's and early 1990's and then "sprung up all over the world". It is also notable that like the secession of Croatia and Slovenia, the secession movements and actions originated outside these nations, and not with the people. As well, what has been seen in all these states are the nations of Germany and Japan gaining more control and ownership including of the resources in these regions, and that has certainly been true of the resources in the Trans Caucasus - Central Asia corridor. Also, disturbingly, although it is reported that these "secession movements" often accompanied by militias that form suspiciously at the same time as the newly formed seceded states, are “indigenous” and “homegrown” and from the people in the region themselves, in fact they are all initiated externally. Most of these conflicts are externally funded from other countries. Under the pretense of being “assistors and trainers and aid workers to help those in these regions”, these international organizations, acting as, it appears, proxies for Germany and Japan, such as the UN, NATO, the EU and other international organizations and international coalitions move in to take over control of these states. As well, what is being seen is a continued multinational military occupation in all of these "new independent seceded states". These new states which supposedly are being created to be independent, are not that but instead states of conflict, chaos, poverty and foreign occupation which don’t have control of their own security, economy, resources or land. These recent secession movements have all been timed and sequenced and began in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s, in a number of areas around the world. They are geographically and ‘in time” sequential, one example, being the former nation of Yugoslavia. The conflicts in Yugoslavia started with a political change in Yugoslavia, also seen being externally pressured in other nations, to destroy the existing political and geographic governing structure to a less central and more decentralized “federal” style of government, dividing these nations into new provinces, states or regions. In Yugoslavia, the economy was attacked and the Yugoslav currency, for the most part was replaced for use by the German Deutschmark, destroying Yugoslavian national economic sovereignty and control, something that the Euro is now being used for throughout Europe. Then, the “newly created states” begin “declaring themselves “independent” as was the case with the government heads of the states of Croatia and Slovenia who “all of a sudden” declared at the “same time” that they were “independent from Yugoslavia” although legally as heads of regions of Yugoslavia they had no legal right to do so and it was unconstitutional. In terms of timing and geographic sequencing, first Slovenia and Croatia, seceded. Conflict in Croatia, was followed by sequential in time and place, conflict in neighboring Bosnia-Herzegovina and then in neighboring Kosovo and then in neighboring Macedonia. This “pattern” of sequentiality both in time and geographically, is being seen throughout the world with secession of created states and is clearly not “indigenous” to the particular single state or even nation, but part of overall, unified, centralized world plans and actions. In the former Soviet Union, this pattern also occurred, with states seceding in “blocs” and in the Caucasus and Central Asian corridor, conflict ensuing. These new states, instead of becoming independent, were immediately connected as groups to the EU, and other proxy organizations. The World Bank took over financial control and these states became militarily affiliated with NATO. Thus, not allowing them any independence. Although these actions and often accompanying militia violence which serves to attack the people in the region, are often described as being “isolated” and connected to separate militias and states of their own accord, instead what is seen is a pattern of these actions occurring sequentially even if described as being “separate and isolated”. Although the current situation in the nation of Sudan has gotten heavy press coverage as being isolated and in the region of Darfur with militias attacking specifically that region, in reality, the actions in Darfur are a continuation of violence in Sudan that started in Southern Sudan, with other militias that served to attack and destroy Southern Sudan as Darfur is now being attacked and destroyed. Millions of people died in these earlier attacks in southern Sudan, and millions more displaced, another characteristic of these modern secession situations, as has been the case with the Darfur region. As soon as the southern Sudan militia leaders signed a “secession agreement” which included terms which gave foreign nations control of the region’s oil and gas resources as well as control of the region overall, the conflict in that region ended, and the conflict in the just neighboring Darfur region commenced. There has been recent talk of the Darfur region seceding, and the conflict from Darfur has moved both sequentially in time and place to neighboring Chad. This has served to destroy the nation of Sudan and create militarily occupied states that are fully open to foreign control by terms of the secession agreements, overseen by the UN. What is evident is a clear pattern worldwide of these actions with control of these seceded states being taken both from the countries to which they belong and from the newly created states themselves. Japan and Germany are the two predominant investors worldwide and this is being seen as well in the regions that are seceding. There is a tremendous degree of secessionist activity in the world right now. It appears that these secessions and secessionist movements are part of overall current actions worldwide that are intended to destroy nations. The secessionist activity today, has much in common with historical antecedents that started in World War One.
The actions that formed much of the Trans-Caucasus – Central Asia states as semi autonomous states initially occurred in the wake of World War One, with Germany as the aggressor, which served to destroy the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Ottoman Empire and the Russian Empire. This created a number of smaller states, using the newly created League of Nations to assist. The Russian Revolution was, it appears set up by Germany and Japan working together. Germany funded and backed Lenin and Trotsky and the Bolsheviks as well as the opposing Nationalist “whites”, and Japan also funded and fought with the “whites” against the bolsheviks, ripping apart the Soviet Union, and creating a number of separate semi autonomous states and leaving a void in the Soviet East, which Japan rushed in to fill.
During World War One, there were deliberately set civil wars within both the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. In Turkey, one of the groups set in conflict with the Turkish government were the Armenians, it appears backed by Germany. In the Austro – Hungarian Empire, they appeared to back the Serbs in conflict with the Austro Hungarian Empire. In terms of the Soviet Union, both nations used the “Reds” and “Whites” in conflict with each other to achieve the same goal.
This same “pattern” or method of use to attack other nations was seen leading up to World War Two, where Japan fostered secession movements all through China and in Mongolia (Manchuria). In Europe, civil wars were set up backed by the German government, the Spanish Civil War being one of them, that all served a similar goal.
It appears that the present actions are also being set up by the German and Japanese governments working together, who are the main economic investors and those who are, as nations, moving it to gain more economic, political and military power in these regions, often using international organizations, such as the UN, EU and NATO as proxies for their actions.
Germany was directly involved in recognizing the seceded states of Slovenia and Croatia, when the Slovenians and Croatians hadn’t themselves, and moved in militarily after doing so. The destruction of Yugoslavia is only country where this has occurred, and is fact occurring throughout the world. It is significant that these secessions for the most part did not begin until the late 1980′s and early 1990′s and then “sprung up all over the world”. It is also notable that like the secession of Croatia and Slovenia, the secession movements and actions originated outside these nations, and not with the people. As well, what has been seen in all these states are the nations of Germany and Japan gaining more control and ownership including of the resources in these regions, and that has certainly been true of the resources in the Trans Caucasus – Central Asia corridor.
Also, disturbingly, although it is reported that these “secession movements” often accompanied by militias that form suspiciously at the same time as the newly formed seceded states, are “indigenous” and “homegrown” and from the people in the region themselves, in fact they are all initiated externally. Most of these conflicts are externally funded from other countries. Under the pretense of being “assistors and trainers and aid workers to help those in these regions”, these international organizations, acting as, it appears, proxies for Germany and Japan, such as the UN, NATO, the EU and other international organizations and international coalitions move in to take over control of these states. As well, what is being seen is a continued multinational military occupation in all of these “new independent seceded states”. These new states which supposedly are being created to be independent, are not that but instead states of conflict, chaos, poverty and foreign occupation which don’t have control of their own security, economy, resources or land.
These recent secession movements have all been timed and sequenced and began in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s, in a number of areas around the world. They are geographically and ‘in time” sequential, one example, being the former nation of Yugoslavia. The conflicts in Yugoslavia started with a political change in Yugoslavia, also seen being externally pressured in other nations, to destroy the existing political and geographic governing structure to a less central and more decentralized “federal” style of government, dividing these nations into new provinces, states or regions. In Yugoslavia, the economy was attacked and the Yugoslav currency, for the most part was replaced for use by the German Deutschmark, destroying Yugoslavian national economic sovereignty and control, something that the Euro is now being used for throughout Europe. Then, the “newly created states” begin “declaring themselves “independent” as was the case with the government heads of the states of Croatia and Slovenia who “all of a sudden” declared at the “same time” that they were “independent from Yugoslavia” although legally as heads of regions of Yugoslavia they had no legal right to do so and it was unconstitutional.
In terms of timing and geographic sequencing, first Slovenia and Croatia, seceded. Conflict in Croatia, was followed by sequential in time and place, conflict in neighboring Bosnia-Herzegovina and then in neighboring Kosovo and then in neighboring Macedonia. This “pattern” of sequentiality both in time and geographically, is being seen throughout the world with secession of created states and is clearly not “indigenous” to the particular single state or even nation, but part of overall, unified, centralized world plans and actions.
In the former Soviet Union, this pattern also occurred, with states seceding in “blocs” and in the Caucasus and Central Asian corridor, conflict ensuing. These new states, instead of becoming independent, were immediately connected as groups to the EU, and other proxy organizations. The World Bank took over financial control and these states became militarily affiliated with NATO. Thus, not allowing them any independence.
Although these actions and often accompanying militia violence which serves to attack the people in the region, are often described as being “isolated” and connected to separate militias and states of their own accord, instead what is seen is a pattern of these actions occurring sequentially even if described as being “separate and isolated”. Although the current situation in the nation of Sudan has gotten heavy press coverage as being isolated and in the region of Darfur with militias attacking specifically that region, in reality, the actions in Darfur are a continuation of violence in Sudan that started in Southern Sudan, with other militias that served to attack and destroy Southern Sudan as Darfur is now being attacked and destroyed. Millions of people died in these earlier attacks in southern Sudan, and millions more displaced, another characteristic of these modern secession situations, as has been the case with the Darfur region. As soon as the southern Sudan militia leaders signed a “secession agreement” which included terms which gave foreign nations control of the region’s oil and gas resources as well as control of the region overall, the conflict in that region ended, and the conflict in the just neighboring Darfur region commenced. There has been recent talk of the Darfur region seceding, and the conflict from Darfur has moved both sequentially in time and place to neighboring Chad. This has served to destroy the nation of Sudan and create militarily occupied states that are fully open to foreign control by terms of the secession agreements, overseen by the UN.
What is evident is a clear pattern worldwide of these actions with control of these seceded states being taken both from the countries to which they belong and from the newly created states themselves. Japan and Germany are the two predominant investors worldwide and this is being seen as well in the regions that are seceding.

]]> By: John Bivens http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-387 John Bivens Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:54:45 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-387 Great Website!! Great Website!!

]]> By: Secession Week Blogging, Monday, Intro To Secession « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-382 Secession Week Blogging, Monday, Intro To Secession « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:45:46 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-382 [...] day, as new links come in, and we’ll have more new posts all week on different topics, like American Secession Movements, Secession vs. Revolution, and Federalism (Secession Lite).  If you’re a blogger, we [...] [...] day, as new links come in, and we’ll have more new posts all week on different topics, like American Secession Movements, Secession vs. Revolution, and Federalism (Secession Lite).  If you’re a blogger, we [...]

]]> By: Upcoming: Secession Week Blogging! « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/01/secession-week-blogging-tuesday-american-secession-independence-movements/#comment-352 Upcoming: Secession Week Blogging! « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:08:43 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=321#comment-352 [...] Tuesday – American Secession & Independence Movements [...] [...] Tuesday – American Secession & Independence Movements [...]

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