Comments on: Seasteading, Tiebout, and Federalism: Seasteading FTW http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/02/seasteading-tiebout-and-federalism-seasteading-ftw/ Towards a Cambrian Explosion in Government Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:14:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Eelco Hoogendoorn http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/02/seasteading-tiebout-and-federalism-seasteading-ftw/#comment-409 Eelco Hoogendoorn Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:12:37 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=354#comment-409 <i>Several people have correctly pointed out that seastead competition is weakened by social ties – even if it is cheap for a family and their house to move, they may be tied to a region by jobs, family, and friends. This is certainly true, but it does not eliminate competition, it only lessens it. </i> An important subtlety to keep in mind, in my opinion, is the different layers of governance that would presumably arise. Say you have several tribes, united under one supra-tribal federation of liberarian-minded tribes. Tribe A feels LSD use is an unacceptable public safety hazard. Tribe B is completely cool with it. Switching between these tribes would not be a very big deal. The busines that employs you would probably not be affiliated with any specific tribe anyway, but only with the federation, and best case, you wouldnt even have to move your house at all, merely alter what hallways you can access uninvited, and which you can not. You would have greatly increased freedom to choose the policy details. Moving from the white seperatists to the black seperatists or vice versa might be more difficult, but then again, that is a restriction i can live with. Several people have correctly pointed out that seastead competition is weakened by social ties – even if it is cheap for a family and their house to move, they may be tied to a region by jobs, family, and friends. This is certainly true, but it does not eliminate competition, it only lessens it.

An important subtlety to keep in mind, in my opinion, is the different layers of governance that would presumably arise.

Say you have several tribes, united under one supra-tribal federation of liberarian-minded tribes. Tribe A feels LSD use is an unacceptable public safety hazard. Tribe B is completely cool with it. Switching between these tribes would not be a very big deal. The busines that employs you would probably not be affiliated with any specific tribe anyway, but only with the federation, and best case, you wouldnt even have to move your house at all, merely alter what hallways you can access uninvited, and which you can not.

You would have greatly increased freedom to choose the policy details. Moving from the white seperatists to the black seperatists or vice versa might be more difficult, but then again, that is a restriction i can live with.

]]> By: sconzey http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/02/seasteading-tiebout-and-federalism-seasteading-ftw/#comment-394 sconzey Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:53:51 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=354#comment-394 Oh, whoops. That'll teach me to comment half-way through reading. Oh, whoops. That’ll teach me to comment half-way through reading.

]]> By: sconzey http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/02/seasteading-tiebout-and-federalism-seasteading-ftw/#comment-393 sconzey Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:49:38 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=354#comment-393 The key with Seasteading (or any other form of Nationbuilding for Fun and Profit) is that the inhabitants are not taxed as such. Instead the land is leased to them and they pay rent (which the landowner may choose to vary according to use). If ever land is sold, <b>the sovereignty of the land is sold with it</b>. The key with Seasteading (or any other form of Nationbuilding for Fun and Profit) is that the inhabitants are not taxed as such. Instead the land is leased to them and they pay rent (which the landowner may choose to vary according to use). If ever land is sold, the sovereignty of the land is sold with it.

]]> By: Dain http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/02/seasteading-tiebout-and-federalism-seasteading-ftw/#comment-388 Dain Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:33:01 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=354#comment-388 I think that even if Caplan is correct, the 'problem' of attrition for these wasteful-tax-implementing locales could still salvage the Tiebout model, though in a roundabout kinda way. Those thinking of moving in will find it less attractive. I think that even if Caplan is correct, the ‘problem’ of attrition for these wasteful-tax-implementing locales could still salvage the Tiebout model, though in a roundabout kinda way. Those thinking of moving in will find it less attractive.

]]> By: Secession Week Blogging: Thursday – Federalism (Secession Lite) « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/02/seasteading-tiebout-and-federalism-seasteading-ftw/#comment-375 Secession Week Blogging: Thursday – Federalism (Secession Lite) « Let A Thousand Nations Bloom Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:39:35 +0000 http://athousandnations.com/?p=354#comment-375 [...] aspects of local competition and which tax/ownership schemes properly incent governments in Seasteading, Tiebout, and Federalism: Seasteading FTW.  (In an older post at the Seasteading Blog I discuss why federalism leads to less conflict than [...] [...] aspects of local competition and which tax/ownership schemes properly incent governments in Seasteading, Tiebout, and Federalism: Seasteading FTW.  (In an older post at the Seasteading Blog I discuss why federalism leads to less conflict than [...]

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