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	<title>Comments on: Secession Week: Friday &#8211; Non-territorial Secession</title>
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	<description>Towards a Cambrian Explosion in Government</description>
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		<title>By: Independence Day Round Up &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-2253</link>
		<dc:creator>Independence Day Round Up &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Friday – Non-Territorial Government: Secede Without Leaving [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Secession Week 2010: Economic Secession &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>Secession Week 2010: Economic Secession &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last year, Patri touched on similar topics in his post on Non-territorial Secession. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last year, Patri touched on similar topics in his post on Non-territorial Secession. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Long Tail and the Size of Nations &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-2088</link>
		<dc:creator>The Long Tail and the Size of Nations &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we should put up with large, one-size-fits-all government? Well, no. It means we should press for non-territorial secession: we should be able to choose our service providers without also making that choice for our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we should put up with large, one-size-fits-all government? Well, no. It means we should press for non-territorial secession: we should be able to choose our service providers without also making that choice for our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Secession Week 2010: Independence is Better Than Revolution &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Secession Week 2010: Independence is Better Than Revolution &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] topics of American secession movements, secession versus revolution, federalism (secession lite), non-territorial secession, and the American Revolution. We’re hoping this year will be even better. We noted last year that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] topics of American secession movements, secession versus revolution, federalism (secession lite), non-territorial secession, and the American Revolution. We’re hoping this year will be even better. We noted last year that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Upcoming: Secession Week Blogging 2010! &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-2040</link>
		<dc:creator>Upcoming: Secession Week Blogging 2010! &#171; Let A Thousand Nations Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Non-territorial Secession Or: How to Change Your Government Service Provider Without Even Moving [...]</description>
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		<title>By: klimmklimm</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>klimmklimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect work! 
Gluttony kills more men than the sword. 
Good health is above wealth 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://buy-xenical-online-klim.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect work!<br />
Gluttony kills more men than the sword.<br />
Good health is above wealth </p>
<p><a href="http://buy-xenical-online-klim.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Secession Week at A Thousand Nations &#171; Panarchists</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>Secession Week at A Thousand Nations &#171; Panarchists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nations. Last week their theme was Secession. On Friday they had a sub-theme, if you will, of Non-territorial Secession, to which Adam posted a comment. The main blogger there, who goes by the name patrissimo, posted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nations. Last week their theme was Secession. On Friday they had a sub-theme, if you will, of Non-territorial Secession, to which Adam posted a comment. The main blogger there, who goes by the name patrissimo, posted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Secession Week at A Thousand Nations &#171; Forum for American Kritarchists</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Secession Week at A Thousand Nations &#171; Forum for American Kritarchists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nations. Last week their theme was Secession. On Friday they had a sub-theme, if you will, of Non-territorial Secession, to which Adam posted a comment. The main blogger there, who goes by the name patrissimo, posted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nations. Last week their theme was Secession. On Friday they had a sub-theme, if you will, of Non-territorial Secession, to which Adam posted a comment. The main blogger there, who goes by the name patrissimo, posted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aardvark</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Aardvark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One form of non-territorial secession I like is to figure out a way to help people hide income and hide assets from the taxman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One form of non-territorial secession I like is to figure out a way to help people hide income and hide assets from the taxman.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl M.</title>
		<link>http://athousandnations.com/2009/07/03/secession-week-friday-non-territorial-secession/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Machinery of Freedom remains one of my favorite books, even though I am no longer an anarchist. It provides a very nice analysis of the economics of government that&#039;s worth studying even if one wants to simply improve upon government.

I used to be a fan of Rothbard&#039;s writings as well, but as I matured I realized he was delusional and an ass. Any historical analysis of his needs to be triple checked at least. His economics was definitely silly. The idea that people have an ordered set of preferences at all times violates experience and has no explanation for indecision states. To place such a crude theory of human action as TRUTH and to deny empathy as having any truth is silliness in the Hegel range.

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As for incremental change, political options exist that are supported by history. Politicians fail to serve the common weal and serve special interests in part due to the huge transaction costs of changing politicians. This is not entirely inherent to democratic replicanism per se. It is a fact of winner-take-all plurality voting. With pv, a powerful faction which is also able to attract swing voters wins. The supporters of the winner stick with him even if he is suboptimal because the only viable choice is a mostly non-overlapping faction. (Think Jesse Helms vs. John Edwards.)  Incumbents thus have both a captive market in their own faction on top of the goodies they can give out to special interests.

Score voting (http://scorevoting.net) solves this problem. While incumbents can still buy votes, members of their original candidate can safely support reform candidates. Furthermore, consensus candidates can work to promote the least bad solutions for all major factions.

I say this is a proven technique even though it hasn&#039;t been used much since the ancient Vikings used it. (Banging on shields for degrees of yes and shouting down for degrees of no is a form of score voting.)  Score voting is used routinely for Olympic events and other judging situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Machinery of Freedom remains one of my favorite books, even though I am no longer an anarchist. It provides a very nice analysis of the economics of government that&#8217;s worth studying even if one wants to simply improve upon government.</p>
<p>I used to be a fan of Rothbard&#8217;s writings as well, but as I matured I realized he was delusional and an ass. Any historical analysis of his needs to be triple checked at least. His economics was definitely silly. The idea that people have an ordered set of preferences at all times violates experience and has no explanation for indecision states. To place such a crude theory of human action as TRUTH and to deny empathy as having any truth is silliness in the Hegel range.</p>
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<p>As for incremental change, political options exist that are supported by history. Politicians fail to serve the common weal and serve special interests in part due to the huge transaction costs of changing politicians. This is not entirely inherent to democratic replicanism per se. It is a fact of winner-take-all plurality voting. With pv, a powerful faction which is also able to attract swing voters wins. The supporters of the winner stick with him even if he is suboptimal because the only viable choice is a mostly non-overlapping faction. (Think Jesse Helms vs. John Edwards.)  Incumbents thus have both a captive market in their own faction on top of the goodies they can give out to special interests.</p>
<p>Score voting (<a href="http://scorevoting.net" rel="nofollow">http://scorevoting.net</a>) solves this problem. While incumbents can still buy votes, members of their original candidate can safely support reform candidates. Furthermore, consensus candidates can work to promote the least bad solutions for all major factions.</p>
<p>I say this is a proven technique even though it hasn&#8217;t been used much since the ancient Vikings used it. (Banging on shields for degrees of yes and shouting down for degrees of no is a form of score voting.)  Score voting is used routinely for Olympic events and other judging situations.</p>
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